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Post by sharie on Sept 11, 2010 20:49:46 GMT
My sister watched 'Just good friends' I think. Did the guy have blonde hair curly at the back?
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Post by scotty on Sept 11, 2010 21:52:32 GMT
Yes Sharie, Vince was played by Paul Nicholas, actor and popstar.
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Post by bandstage on Sept 11, 2010 22:31:47 GMT
:)Cheers Fiftiesbelle. I do love my beard and hoping it will grow down to my waist. I love the contrast of having a shaved head and then masses of russet beard. You wouldnt believe the sometimes insulting comments i get from passing folk though like they have never seen anybody with a big beard before, good job i'm thick skinned when it comes to my appearance and what i wear. I get asked if i am Jewish, been called a leprecorn, last week a passing woman said 'Its Lawrence of Arabia' and often get laughed at. The worst is when weekenders try to push a camera in my face. I'm down to earth but these folk are just pond life.
I'm looking forward to the next installment of TIE 86 on Tuesday. I've just watched to DVD of the film again this evening. These things take you back years dont they and how society has changed. I remember 86 being like the programme when i think back. I was rather naff at the time leaving school and afraid of the big bad world. My self confidence then was about zilch from years of school name calling. All long in the past though now and actually folk who remember me at the time have commented to my Mum that they remember me as being a very 'strong' person, guess i had to be.
Yes all the old programmes are great for going back in memories to the time, the fashions both in clothing and house styles, the music and how society as changed. I love things from the past but i would never want to go back.
Carl xx
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Post by Jane on Sept 11, 2010 22:50:41 GMT
I saw the This is England film for the first time earlier this year, then once again earlier this week (it was on tv) just prior to This is England '86 starting. What I liked about the film was the part about friends getting by in less than ideal times. I found parts of the film hard to watch, especially right near the end (obvious reasons).
The tv series is shaping up to be a lighter hearted affair, although the trailers for forthcoming episodes are hinting a darker storyline for some characters.
This film and series aren't how I remember 83 and 86 at all (maybe I should count my blessings). The TiE characters seem to all have a really grim time of it.
On the Buses...! Blakey just cracks me up...lol Was there ever a time when he didn't look annoyed?
I vaguely remember Just Good Friends too, how did it end?
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Post by scotty on Sept 12, 2010 9:02:12 GMT
SPOILER ALERT - DO NOT READ IF YOU INTEND WATCHING THE SERIES.
They did 3 series of JGF - it started with Penny and Vince meeting again years after he had left her standing at the altar. They discover they still love each other but being so different they have a roller coaster relationship. In the final episode Vince wakes up one morning to find Penny has gone and a goodbye note on the pillow. There are then lots of shots showing Penny in Paris and Vince packing his things from their flat but in the very last shot, they meet up in a registry office in Paris and get married. The note was Penny asking Vince to meet her there. Aww!
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Post by Bronnie on Sept 12, 2010 13:20:37 GMT
Hi
I loved JGF too. Penny was played by actress Jan Francis who had a lovely voice. I think she often reads audio books for this reason. Paul Nicholas was great at doing cheeky grins and winks when playing the lovable rogue Vince.
As for Carry On one moment I shall always remember is stout Hattie Jacques playing Matron and whisking off a male patient's underpants in seconds as he is lying in his hospital bed. iIthink she says something like-
"Come on man! Don't be so stupid- let's get them off!"
I'll see if I can find it on YouTube.
Bronnie
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Post by alysonpeaches on Sept 12, 2010 21:24:20 GMT
I think we need more stout matrons!!
Im afraid when I was younger I used to fancy Paul Nicholas in just good friends. I usually go for dark haired men of the Richard Gere persuasion but broke the rule for Paul Nicholas. I also loved Penny's hair and had mine cut like that! She always looked so well groomed and smart.
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Post by bandstage on Sept 12, 2010 23:33:04 GMT
:)I loved Just Goods Friends, so did my Mum and eldest Sister. We loved the chuckles Penny's snooty Mother used to give when she'd look through the net curtains and say 'Its the Pinners' with dread. I remember a Christmas special when it went back to Vince and Penny meeting in their youth and the arranged wedding when he jilts her. Jan Francis was wearing an obvious wig of beautiful raven curls and waves down her back. Then towards the end it went on how she'd married a boring man her Mother approved of and with the character being a little older then the hair was cut off shoulder length face framing waves. Jan Francis still crops up in drama serials today every now and then, infact she was in Emmerdale quite recently.
The thing about This is England is that it features the more run down areas of society. I grew up on a council estate in a very working class village. Not everywhere was rough but certain streets and parts of estates were. I had a loving close family background so i was sheltered from lots of things but it was around all the time. The darker sides of the storylines can be desturbing but the grim reality that not everyone is lucky enough to grow up in the cocoon of a safe nuclear family background and for so many council estate life is how they started out in life and for some never get away from it.
Incidentally did anybody watch the first part of Alan Davies trip back to the 80's in Essex and his younger days the other night. He hadnt a clue what it was like to live a down to earth life growing up in safe very middle class world, the big house set back from the road, the private school etc. His idea of when he was being a rebel seemed so tame. The programme was a bit dissapointing from a nostalgia trip point of view for me. The best bit was when he revisited one of the 'Debden Skins'.
Carl xx
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Post by sharie on Sept 13, 2010 9:59:01 GMT
The thing about This is England is that it features the more run down areas of society. I grew up on a council estate in a very working class village. Not everywhere was rough but certain streets and parts of estates were. I had a loving close family background so i was sheltered from lots of things but it was around all the time. The darker sides of the storylines can be desturbing but the grim reality that not everyone is lucky enough to grow up in the cocoon of a safe nuclear family background and for so many council estate life is how they started out in life and for some never get away from it. When I watched TIE it reminded me very strongly of the rougher estates in my area. The scene were the grils woke up in the dingy council flat with the unpainted walls, minging doors etc evoked some strong memories of some of the homes belonging to girls I went to school with. Its the smells I remember first - the communal corridors smelt of pine disinfectant warring with the smell of urine (the elderly neighbours downstairs were fighting a daily battle against the scruffy lot upstairs.) I guess I was from a middle class background (big semi house in the fields, mum at home dad working in career) but for some reason always found myself drawn to hanging out with a group very like those from TIE86. Kids like these, once they got to know you, seemed to accept you for who you were and not for what you had, and also friendships were stronger although they played hard. |
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Post by Jane on Sept 13, 2010 12:38:15 GMT
A quick heads up for anyone wanting to see episode 1, it is on Channel 4 tonight at 11pm.
Looking forward to episode 2, tomorrow night.
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Post by bandstage on Sept 13, 2010 22:59:31 GMT
:)Aaawwhhh exactly Sharie. 'The salt of the earth' is what these folk often are. There is good and bad in all walks of life. Not that there isn't prejudice of differences in the lower/working classes but often wealthier areas often hide behind snobbery. Get to know a true honest down to earth sort and you have a proper friend for life.
These characters show that despite the grim harsh reality that taints their lives they have stuck together through thick and thin. Just as they took the young Shaun into their fold in the film when they found out he was lonely and picked on. A rough, tough image can often mask and heart of gold.
Carl xx
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Post by Jane on Sept 15, 2010 23:18:46 GMT
Episode 2, alternately hilarious and disturbing.
I was at one of the preview screenings for episode one and they also showed us trailers for upcoming episodes. Wish I hadn't seen those, they gave too much away! However, much of the content of those trailers has now been shown in the first two episodes.
Carl, I caught a repeat of the Alan Davies programme afterwards. Didn't he have a cushy upbringing?! The public school segment made me laugh, I wondered if he'd taken inspiration from the film "If...." with the 'destroying the school' thing...! He looked really chuffed to get Paul Weller's autograph, bless. The former newsagent owners were lovely. I'm sorry they had such a hard time of it.
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Post by sharie on Sept 16, 2010 12:06:10 GMT
I didn't really like episode 2 as much as 1. Parts of it reminded me of Shameless (the sex scenes) and I thought Lol came across as a bit spoilt and selfish. Didn't like the scene at the end where the young lad is sitting on the couch with his younger sister and the 'step-father' comes in and beats him up - very disturbing I thought. Looking forward to seeing more though.  |
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Post by Jane on Sept 16, 2010 14:09:25 GMT
It was a bit 'musical beds', wasn't it?! ;D Roll on week 3, although I am expecting little in the way of laughs.
I have yet to see Shameless. I have seen quite a few of the actors from it in other films and shows (and have liked them). My favourite being David Threlfall playing one of the lead roles in the original tv version of Scum (made a year or so before the film). I also liked Anne-Marie Duff as Elizabeth I in The Virgin Queen.
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Post by bandstage on Sept 22, 2010 22:06:26 GMT
:)I'd have loved to have seen the preview and trailers Jane of TIE86. These things never spoil it for me. I always read the ending of a book, read spoiler alerts on soaps etc and if i know a friends been to see a must see film before me i want them to tell me everything before i've seen it. I still enjoy as i can put my own intepretation on things.
This weeks part 3 ended very distessingly but i cant wait to tune into the last part 4 next week.
I've given up on the Alan Davies thing, far too cushy upbringing to be interesting. It clashed last week with the one off drama 'Road to Coronation Street' anyhow and there was no competition.
Carl xx
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